The Mockingcast

About the show

The Mockingcast is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by RJ Heijmen, Sarah Condon and David Zahl, and brought to you by Mockingbird Ministries, an organization which seeks to connect the Christian faith with the realities of everyday life in fresh and down-to-earth ways. You can find out more about Mockingbird at

Audio production provided by TJ Hester.

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  • Episode 192: Smokin' Soulmates

    August 2nd, 2020  |  1 hr 7 mins

    In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk marriage models, bored believers, fragile meritocrats, and reconciled congressmen. Also, RJ catches up on some Netflix while Sarah dabbles in prophecy.

  • Episode 191: Exploding Heads and Inedible Sandwiches

    July 10th, 2020  |  59 mins 39 secs

    In which Dave, RJ, and Sarah talk curated authenticity, shameful beaches, and imputing baseball coaches. Also, Sarah does some Corona math while and Dave weighs the wisdom of a Shakespearean admonition. Don't miss the surprise at the end.

  • Episode 190: My Name Is Soapbox

    June 29th, 2020  |  1 hr 10 mins

    In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk lonely dads, radical acceptance, hashtag preaching, and anger in the Bible. Also, the Heijmens pray someone into a fender-bender while Sarah takes a break from social media.

  • Episode 189: From Minneapolis to Constantinople

    June 1st, 2020  |  1 hr 1 min

    In which Sarah, RJ, and Dave talk picky eaters, casual racism, George Floyd, and Brendan the Navigator. Also, Dave presses some steel while Sarah reheats some frozen garlic bread.

  • Episode 188: Homicidal Psycho Jungle Mockingcast

    May 26th, 2020  |  1 hr 5 mins

    In which Dave, Sarah, and RJ talk Calvin and Hobbes, dirty dishes, prayer science, and oscillating faith. Also, RJ risks relational wrath to rearrange the silverware and Confetti Egg Condon make a cameo. To respond to the opening appeal and give to Mockingbird, please visit

  • Episode 187: Watch Out Whitney

    May 18th, 2020  |  1 hr 2 mins

    In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk middle school meddling, Waffle House fisticuffs, worthless baseball cards, and weird Christians. Also, Dave gets cut from a basketball team (or two).

  • Episode 186: Garbage Pail Groundhogs

    May 10th, 2020  |  1 hr 8 mins

    In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk guilty pleasures, quarantine fatigue, 1st century exorcisms, and eccentric branches of the welfare state. Also, Dave turns to ebay while Sarah lets them eat cake.

  • Episode 185: Be Like Mike?

    April 30th, 2020  |  1 hr 1 min

    In which Sarah, RJ, and Dave talk Michael Jordan, productivity epiphanies, and Kierkegaard's glorious failures. Also, Dave goes full Regency while Sarah expounds on Russian dynasties.

  • Episode 184: Karen vs the Emotion Police

    April 23rd, 2020  |  1 hr 10 mins

    In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk corona shaming, prepared forgiveness, parental anxiety and essential churches. Also, RJ finally finds out how the cow ate the cabbage.

  • Episode 183: The Ballad of Weird Al

    April 15th, 2020  |  1 hr 10 mins

    In which Sarah, RJ and Dave talk the ministry of weirdness and the hope of post-Corona grace before lamenting the popularity of lament. Also, Sarah reassesses Pokemon while RJ complains about his boss.

  • Episode 182: Deployed!

    April 6th, 2020  |  1 hr 7 mins

    In which Dave, Sarah, and RJ talk celebrity backlash, culpability anxiety, remote worship, and New York trauma. Also, Dave does his best Coach Taylor impression while Sarah learns from widows.

  • Episode 181: The Great Thing About Hell

    March 30th, 2020  |  1 hr 3 mins

    In which Sarah, RJ, and Dave talk favorite memes, anticipatory grief, apocalyptic pick-up lines, and other impossibilities. Also, Sarah organizes a Zoom happy hour, and RJ shakes his neighbor's hand.

  • Episode 180: Lowering the Bar

    March 22nd, 2020  |  59 mins 42 secs

    In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk corona-couples, corona-parents, corona-jobs, and the perils of giving advice. Also, RJ takes things too personally, Sarah skips Morning Prayer, and no celebrates Lazarus's life.

  • Episode 179: Coronacation Survival Kit

    March 16th, 2020  |  54 mins 18 secs

    In which Dave, Sarah, and RJ talk new corona-realities, compassion shortages, and Martin Luther's advice for pandemic survivors--before giving their quarantine recommendations. Also, RJ goes bodysurfing while Sarah prays for teenagers in love.

  • Episode 178: What Would Gaga Do?

    March 9th, 2020  |  1 hr 12 mins

    In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk dating Lady Gaga, reading MeMaw's bible, reckoning with coronapanic during Lent, and forgiving other people's enemies. Also, Sarah leaves a trail of bodies behind her while Dave listens to Big Pink.

  • Episode 177: The Type Who Never Listens

    February 24th, 2020  |  1 hr 5 mins

    In which Sarah, RJ, and Dave talk closeness-communication bias, Type of Guy Theory, nuclear family breakdown, and skipping church. Also, Florida man RJ Heijmen reveals why he speaks so quickly, and Sarah discloses her least favorite sermon.